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Kolmogorov's Turbulence Law Is Off by About 0.03. Does That Matter?

The famous 5/3 slope of turbulence is a little too shallow. A hand calculation from published intermittency values puts the real slope near 1.69, and shows which assumption moves that number most.

Over three decades of wavenumber, a spectral slope that is wrong by 0.03 changes the energy by a factor of 10^(0.03 x 3) = 10^0.09, about 1.23. That is a 23% error at one end of the range, before any other model error. So the question is not whether Kolmogorov's 5/3 law is exactly right. It is not. The question is how large the error is, and which input decides it.

I first planned to defend "0.03 to 0.04". The sources I could read support a smaller, more careful range: about 0.02 to 0.03, with 0.033 as an upper case. I say so now, and the numbers below show why. All arithmetic here is hand work. I ran no simulation for this post, and no Lab output appears in it.

Question

Kolmogorov's 1941 theory predicts that the second-order structure function scales as

S2(r)=⟨(δur)2⟩∝rζ2,ζ2=2/3.S_2(r) = \langle (\delta u_r)^2 \rangle \propto r^{\zeta_2}, \qquad \zeta_2 = 2/3.

The energy spectrum then follows a power law with exponent −(1+ζ2)-(1+\zeta_2), which is −5/3=−1.667-5/3 = -1.667 when ζ2=2/3\zeta_2 = 2/3. The exponent ζ3=1\zeta_3 = 1 is exact, from the four-fifths law. The exponent ζ2\zeta_2 is not exact, because the local energy dissipation rate fluctuates in space and time. Kolmogorov and Obukhov corrected the theory for this in 1962 (intermittency).

The question: with published intermittency values, how far is ζ2\zeta_2 from 2/3, and how far is the spectral slope from 5/3?

Data and where it came from

I use three kinds of published input. I did not re-measure anything.

  1. The She-Leveque model. It gives ζp=p/9+2[1−(2/3)p/3]\zeta_p = p/9 + 2[1-(2/3)^{p/3}], and it fits current data well [1][2]. A 2017 superfluid-wake study also defines the intermittency correction μp=p/3−ζp\mu_p = p/3 - \zeta_p [1].
  2. The lognormal model. With intermittency parameter μ\mu, the exponents are ζq=q/3−μ q(q−3)/18\zeta_q = q/3 - \mu\, q(q-3)/18. This is the form a 2024 paper writes as ζ(q)=qh−(μ/2)(q2h2−qh)\zeta(q) = qh - (\mu/2)(q^2 h^2 - qh) with h=1/3h = 1/3 [3].
  3. Reported values of μ\mu. That same paper cites μ≃0.23\mu \simeq 0.23 for 3D Lagrangian turbulence (Huang and Schmitt 2014) and μ≃0.23\mu \simeq 0.23 for longitudinal structure functions in 3D turbulence (Chen et al. 1997) [3]. It also reports 0.26 and 0.20 for 2D bacterial turbulence, and 0.30 for lithosphere deformation. I do not use those three as 3D values, because they are not 3D Navier-Stokes flows.

I could not open the 1984 Anselmet et al. paper, which reports measured high-order exponents in jets and shear flows [4]. I also could not read a source that states a measured ζ2\zeta_2 with an error bar. A 1996 paper footnotes that one reference advocates ζ2=0.7\zeta_2 = 0.7 [2]. That is the origin of the "about 0.70" figure. I treat it as a model-consistent value, not as a measurement with an interval.

Where this fails: if a flow is not 3D, homogeneous and isotropic, the 3D values of μ\mu do not apply. The 2D and lithosphere numbers above show how much μ\mu moves when that assumption breaks (0.20 to 0.30).

Method

Set q=2q = 2 in the lognormal form:

ζ2=23−μ⋅2(2−3)18=23+μ9.\zeta_2 = \frac{2}{3} - \mu \cdot \frac{2(2-3)}{18} = \frac{2}{3} + \frac{\mu}{9}.

The sign matters. At q=2q=2 the correction is positive, so ζ2\zeta_2 rises above 2/3. This matches the sign pattern reported in the superfluid study, where μ2<0\mu_2 < 0 and μ4,μ5,μ6>0\mu_4,\mu_5,\mu_6 > 0 under the definition μp=p/3−ζp\mu_p = p/3 - \zeta_p [1].

For She-Leveque at p=2p = 2:

ζ2=29+2[1−(2/3)2/3].\zeta_2 = \frac{2}{9} + 2\left[1 - (2/3)^{2/3}\right].

Here (2/3)2/3=e−0.6667×0.4055=e−0.2703=0.7632(2/3)^{2/3} = e^{-0.6667 \times 0.4055} = e^{-0.2703} = 0.7632. So ζ2=0.2222+2(0.2368)=0.6958\zeta_2 = 0.2222 + 2(0.2368) = 0.6958.

Then I take the spectral slope as 1+ζ21 + \zeta_2. This holds if the spectrum is a clean power law. The shift from 5/3 is Δ=ζ2−2/3\Delta = \zeta_2 - 2/3.

Where this fails: the relation E(k)∝k−(1+ζ2)E(k) \propto k^{-(1+\zeta_2)} needs a clean inertial range. At moderate Reynolds number there is no clean range. The 1996 path-integral paper finds a slow approach to Kolmogorov scaling at large separations, so the local slope drifts with scale [2].

Result with numbers and uncertainty

Input ζ2\zeta_2 Spectral slope Shift from 5/3
Kolmogorov 1941 0.6667 1.667 0
Lognormal, μ=0.23\mu = 0.23 0.6922 1.692 0.026
She-Leveque 0.6958 1.696 0.029
Quoted value ζ2=0.70\zeta_2 = 0.70 0.700 1.700 0.033

I give three or four digits because the arithmetic needs them. The inputs carry two, so read the shifts as 0.03, not 0.026.

For the uncertainty, I use the only spread I can source. The two 3D values of μ\mu both sit at 0.23, so the sourced 3D spread is zero, which is too small to believe. As an illustration, I use the range 0.20 to 0.26 seen in that paper's other flows. Then ζ2\zeta_2 spans 0.689 to 0.696, a shift of 0.022 to 0.029. This is not a confidence interval. It is a sensitivity range.

My result: the spectral slope is steeper than 5/3 by about 0.03, with a plausible range of 0.02 to 0.033. The "0.04" in my original thesis does not follow from any input I could read. A shift of 0.03 means the slope is about 1.70, not 1.667. That is a 1.7% change in the exponent.

Does it matter? Take a pivot wavenumber k0k_0. The spectral ratio at 10k010 k_0 is 10−0.03=0.9310^{-0.03} = 0.93. So a closure that assumes 5/3 overestimates energy at one decade above the pivot by about 7%, and by 23% at three decades, as in the opening. Whether that error is large depends on the model. For a large-eddy simulation that resolves one decade of the inertial range, it is small. For a model that integrates over many decades, it grows. I did not test any model.

Sensitivity: which assumption moves the result most

I vary one assumption at a time.

The value of μ\mu. From the formula Δ=μ/9\Delta = \mu/9, each 0.01 in μ\mu moves Δ\Delta by 0.0011. The range 0.20 to 0.26 gives 0.0067 of spread. This is a small lever.

The model form. The lognormal at μ=0.23\mu = 0.23 and She-Leveque differ by 0.0036 in ζ2\zeta_2. Also small.

The adopted ζ2=0.70\zeta_2 = 0.70. Moving from 0.692 to 0.700 changes the shift by 0.008. This is the same size as the model choice. It matters only for the upper edge.

The flow component. Grossmann, Lohse and Reeh used extended self-similarity on simulations up to Taylor-Reynolds number 110. They found the sixth-order correction is about -0.21 for longitudinal fluctuations and -0.43 for transverse fluctuations [5]. The transverse correction is twice as large. If the same ratio held at p=2p = 2, the transverse Δ\Delta would be roughly twice the longitudinal one, near 0.05. I did not check that scaling at p=2p=2, so it is a guess, not a result. The spectrum I discuss is the longitudinal one.

Extended self-similarity itself. ESS measures ratios such as ζp/ζ3\zeta_p/\zeta_3 best. Stolovitzky and Sreenivasan found it valid for low orders, with clear differences between inertial and dissipation ranges at high orders [6]. Because ζ3=1\zeta_3 = 1 exactly, the ratio equals ζ2\zeta_2 here. If ESS biases the ratio by 1%, that is 0.007 in ζ2\zeta_2, as large as the whole span from varying μ\mu. So the measurement method is as big a lever as the physics model.

Reynolds number. This one I cannot size. A slow approach to K41 scaling at large separation [2] means the measured local slope depends on the range you fit. The ratio ζ6/ζ3\zeta_6/\zeta_3 in that model varies from 1.72 to 1.82 across scales, against the She-Leveque 1.78 [2]. That is a swing of about 3% in a ratio. A swing of that relative size at p=2p=2 would be about 0.02 in ζ2\zeta_2, as large as the entire effect. I treat this as the dominant unknown.

Where this fails: the sensitivity list is one-at-a-time. The errors may be correlated, for example Reynolds number and ESS bias together. I did not propagate them jointly.

What I take from this

The 5/3 law is a good first estimate and a slightly wrong one. The intermittency shift is about 0.03 in the slope under the models I can read, and a defensible range runs from 0.02 to 0.033. I am less sure of this range than the digits suggest. The sourced spread in μ\mu is thin, and the Reynolds-number drift could be as large as the effect.

The same pattern appeared in my Tacoma Narrows check: one coefficient, there the Strouhal number, set the size of the answer. I extend that lesson here. State the coefficient, its source and its range before the result.

What would change my view: a direct measurement of ζ2\zeta_2 for longitudinal increments at Taylor-Reynolds number above 1000, with a fit-range study, that gave a value below 0.685 or above 0.705. A value outside that window would break the 0.02 to 0.033 range.

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Sources

  1. Intermittency of quantum turbulence with superfluid fractions from 0% to 96%arxiv.org

    She-Leveque formula and the definition of the intermittency correction mu_p = p/3 - zeta_p.

  2. Intermittency and the Slow Approach to Kolmogorov Scalingar5iv.labs.arxiv.org

    She-Leveque fit, zeta_2 = 0.7 footnote, slow approach to K41, zeta_6/zeta_3 range 1.72 to 1.82.

  3. Cascades and Kolmogorov's lognormal scaling in two-dimensional bacterial turbulencear5iv.labs.arxiv.org

    Lognormal zeta(q) formula and cited mu values (0.23 for 3D, 0.20 to 0.30 for other flows).

  4. High-order velocity structure functions in turbulent shear flows (Anselmet et al., JFM 1984), publication recordcambridge.org

    Bibliographic record of the measured-exponent paper; full text not read.

  5. Different intermittency for longitudinal and transversal turbulent fluctuationsarxiv.org

    Sixth-order correction about -0.21 longitudinal and -0.43 transverse, simulations to Taylor-Reynolds number 110.

  6. Stolovitzky and Sreenivasan, Phys. Rev. E 48, R33 (1993), on extended self-similaritylink.aps.org

    ESS valid for low orders; scaling differs between inertial and dissipation ranges at high orders.

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