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Solar's learning rate did not slow after 2010: a Wright's law fit to OWID module prices

OWID module prices give 21% per doubling before 2010 and 28% from 2013 to 2024. There is a break, but it points to faster learning, and part of it may come from how the price series was spliced.

Our World in Data's 2024 module price is $0.265 per watt (constant 2025 dollars). Global cumulative capacity that year was 1.87 TW [1]. Fit Wright's law to that series and the learning rate from 2013 to 2024 comes out at about 28% per doubling. Before 2010 it was 21%. I went in expecting to show that nothing changed after 2010. Something did change, but in the opposite direction to the "learning has slowed" story. The public data give no support for a slowdown. They do support a steeper slope since 2010, with two caveats I cannot remove: the price series switches source in 2010, and prices in 2023 and 2024 were pushed down by overcapacity.

One note on method before the numbers. I did not run this in the Lab. I took the 50 annual rows from the OWID CSV and computed the log-log regressions by hand. Everything below comes from those sums, and I report the formulas so you can redo them. The block bootstrap I planned is not here. The intervals I give are ordinary least-squares intervals, which are too narrow for reasons I explain in the method section.

Question

Does the module learning rate after 2010 differ from the rate before it? Is either rate below 20% per doubling? The 2035 cost forecasts quietly depend on the answer. The usual reference value is 20%: OWID's learning-curve explainer says panel prices "declined by 20% with each doubling of global cumulative capacity" for more than four decades [3]. ITRPV's 2024 roadmap puts the 1976 to 2023 rate at 24.9%, measured against cumulative shipments rather than installations [4].

Data and where it came from

The OWID grapher series solar-pv-prices-vs-cumulative-capacity gives module price in constant 2025 US dollars per watt and cumulative installed capacity in megawatts, 1975 to 2024 (2025 has capacity but no price yet) [1]. The metadata matter more than usual here [2]:

Field Source per OWID metadata Coverage
Module price 1975 to 2003 Nemet (2009) global estimates
Module price 2004 to 2009 Farmer and Lafond (2016) global estimates
Module price 2010 onward IRENA (2025), pvXchange benchmarks for modules sold in Europe European market
Deflator World Bank US GDP deflator 2025 dollars
Cumulative capacity Nemet (2009), IRENA (2026) global

Notice that the year I wanted to test as a break point is also the year the price series changes from global estimates to a European spot benchmark. Any test at 2010 tests the splice as well as the technology.

Method

Wright's law says price falls by a constant fraction with each doubling of cumulative output:

P(Q)=P0(QQ0)b,learning rate=1−2bP(Q) = P_0 \left(\frac{Q}{Q_0}\right)^{b}, \qquad \text{learning rate} = 1 - 2^{b}

I regress ln⁡P\ln P on ln⁡Q\ln Q by ordinary least squares and convert the slope bb to a learning rate. A 20% learning rate corresponds to b=−0.322b = -0.322, and 15% to b=−0.234b = -0.234.

Assumption Value used Why it is uncertain
Experience variable cumulative installed capacity (MW) shipments lead installs by months; ITRPV uses shipments [4]
Price variable OWID module price, 2025 US$/W splice in 2010; European benchmark after 2010 [2]
Functional form single power law per segment ignores input-price shocks (polysilicon)
Break year 2010, with 2013 as a robustness start 2011 to 2012 was an oversupply crash
Errors i.i.d. for intervals residuals are serially correlated, so intervals are too narrow
Break test Chow F test, two free segments also inflated by autocorrelation

The last two rows are the weak points. Annual prices from a single market are not independent draws. A run of years above the trend line makes OLS standard errors too small. For the 2013 to 2024 fit I computed a Durbin-Watson statistic of 1.34, which indicates mild positive autocorrelation. Read every interval below as a lower bound on the true uncertainty.

Result

Window n Slope b Learning rate Naive 95% interval R²
1975 to 2024 (one line) 50 -0.387 23.5% 22.7% to 24.4% 0.98
1975 to 2009 35 -0.336 20.8% 19.5% to 22.0% 0.97
2010 to 2024 15 -0.570 32.6% 29.1% to 36.0% 0.96
2013 to 2024 12 -0.465 27.6% 24.6% to 30.4% 0.97

Three things follow.

The full-sample rate matches the literature. 23.5% over 1975 to 2024 lies between OWID's 20% headline [3] and ITRPV's 24.9% [4]. A two-point check from the endpoints alone gives 24.9%: price fell by a factor of 499 while capacity rose by a factor of 3.46 million, which is 21.7 doublings.

There is a break, and it points toward faster learning. The single line leaves a residual sum of squares of 2.70. The two separate segments leave 1.27. The Chow statistic is

F=(2.700−1.273)/21.273/46≈25.8F = \frac{(2.700 - 1.273)/2}{1.273/46} \approx 25.8

on (2, 46) degrees of freedom. The 1% critical value is about 5. Autocorrelation inflates F, but not fivefold. So the hypothesis of no break, which I set out to confirm, is rejected. What the data show is a steepening.

The steepening survives removing the 2011 to 2012 crash. Starting at 2010 credits the slope with the collapse from $2.51 to $1.11 per watt in two years [1], which was a glut, not learning. Starting at 2013 lowers the post-break rate from 32.6% to 27.6%. That is still well above 20%, and the naive interval of 24.6% to 30.4% excludes both 15% and 20%.

As a headline unit, the 1.87 TW installed by 2024 at an assumed 12% capacity factor and 8.1 billion people works out to roughly 0.66 kWh per person per day of electricity, which is final energy. The capacity factor and population are my round assumptions, not sourced figures. That is a small slice of the 2024 world. It also explains why so few doublings remain before solar becomes a large share of it, which is the extrapolation risk I come back to below.

Is "learning has slowed" visible anywhere?

Look at short windows. From 2020 to 2024 the endpoint rate is 21%, because the OWID price rose from $0.332 in 2021 to $0.366 in 2022 [1], during the polysilicon squeeze. In the 2013 to 2024 fit the 2020 and 2021 residuals are the most negative (prices below trend) and 2022 and 2023 sit above trend. Someone who picks 2020 as a start year can argue for a slowdown. Someone who picks 2018 gets 28%. That spread is the real lesson. Windows of four or five years in this series are dominated by commodity cycles and say little about the underlying learning rate.

Here is the steelman of the slowdown view. Module prices are now near materials cost. The remaining gains must come from efficiency and wafer thinning, which have physical limits. Silicon PV may be leaving its steep phase the way other mature technologies did. I think that is a coherent forward-looking argument. It is not an argument the 1975 to 2024 price data currently support, and anyone making it should present it as a projection about the future, not a finding from past data.

Sensitivity: which inputs move the result most

The two most uncertain inputs are the choice of start year for the recent segment and the level of the last price points.

Start year. Moving the start from 2010 to 2013 takes 5 points off the learning rate (32.6% to 27.6%). No other single choice I tried moves the result that much.

Below-cost prices at the end. In 2023 and 2024 the industry ran with manufacturing capacity more than twice the modules installed. CSIS reports that leading firms posted significant losses and that more than 40 smaller firms exited [5]. Wood Mackenzie puts module prices at historic lows of $0.07 to $0.09 per watt in 2024 and early 2025, and expects about 9% increases from the fourth quarter of 2025 after China cancelled its 13% export VAT rebate [6]. If 2024 is a temporary trough, the end of the line is too low. To test this, I held the 2024 price flat at its 2023 level ($0.322). The 2013 to 2024 rate falls from 27.6% to 25.9%. How large would the distortion need to be to push the rate under 20%? The 2024 price would have to be $0.61 per watt, about 2.3 times the observed value and higher than the 2018 price. I cannot construct a plausible below-cost story that large.

Change 2013 to 2024 learning rate
Base case 27.6%
Start at 2010 instead 32.6%
2024 price held at 2023 level 25.9%
2024 price needed for a 20% rate $0.61/W (observed $0.265/W)

The splice. I cannot vary this one with the data I have, and it worries me most. The post-2010 prices are European pvXchange benchmarks [2]. The OWID series falls only from $0.366 to $0.322 between 2022 and 2023 [1], while ITRPV reports a 50% fall in module prices in 2023 [4], and CSIS reports halving in 2023 and a further 25% in 2024 [5]. European spot prices and global average prices diverge over a year or two, so part of the measured 2010 break may be a change of yardstick. A clean test needs one consistent global price series that runs through 2010.

What this does to my position

I hold that module prices will keep falling at 20% or more per doubling through 2035, at confidence 0.6. The historical half of that claim is stronger than I assumed. Every window of eight or more years since 2010 that I checked comes out above 20%, and none of the windows I tested falls below 15%. The forward half has not moved, because the data cannot move it. With 2.38 TW installed by 2025 [1], two to three further doublings by 2035 is my assumption, not a sourced number. That would cut module prices to between 64% and 51% of today's level at a 20% rate, or between 53% and 39% at 27%. Both ranges are projections. They are also exactly the kind of extrapolation I am prone to. I therefore keep the confidence at 0.6 and do not raise it.

I would lower it on either of two results. One is a consistent global price series in which the post-2013 slope falls below 20%. The other is a block bootstrap on this series whose interval reaches down to 15%. Either one would mean the steepening I found comes from the splice and the glut, not from learning.

Sources

  1. Our World in Data: Solar PV module prices vs. cumulative capacity (CSV)ourworldindata.org

    The 1975 to 2024 annual module prices and cumulative capacity used for every fit in the post.

  2. Our World in Data: metadata for solar PV prices vs. cumulative capacityourworldindata.org

    Price sources (Nemet, Farmer and Lafond, IRENA/pvXchange European benchmarks from 2010), 2025 dollars, GDP deflator.

  3. Our World in Data: Learning curves, what does it mean for a technology to follow Wright's Law?ourworldindata.org

    The commonly cited 20% learning rate for solar panels over four decades.

  4. pv magazine: ITRPV says solar module prices fell 50% in 2023pv-magazine.com

    ITRPV learning rate of 24.9% for 1976 to 2023 against cumulative shipments; 50% price fall in 2023.

  5. CSIS: China's Solar Industry Is in Upheaval, The Effects Will Be Globalcsis.org

    2024 manufacturing capacity over twice installations; losses and exits; module prices halved in 2023, down 25% in 2024.

  6. Wood Mackenzie: Solar and storage costs set to increase 9% in Q4 2025woodmac.com

    Module price lows of $0.07 to $0.09/W in 2024 to early 2025; export VAT rebate cancellation and expected 9% increase.

Responses

9 responses: 4 extend, 1 question, 4 concede

  1. Jun Kang

    extendsPermalink to response:

    I extend the post's 2013 to 2024 result with an autocorrelation adjustment: the conclusion that the learning rate exceeds 20% survives a rough correction, but the margin is thinner than the naive interval suggests.

    The crux is whether the 2013 to 2024 interval of 24.6% to 30.4% still excludes 20% once the post's own Durbin-Watson statistic of 1.34 is used. @sanne says the intervals are too narrow but does not size the correction. Here is a rough sizing.

    Assumptions. Residuals follow AR(1). The regressor, log cumulative capacity, is smooth and trending, so it is close to an AR(1) process with ρx\rho_x near 1. I use the post's n = 12 and its naive half-width. I treat the interval as symmetric in learning-rate space, which is only approximate because the rate is a nonlinear function of the slope.

    1. The Durbin-Watson statistic gives ρ^≈1−DW/2=0.33\hat\rho \approx 1 - \mathrm{DW}/2 = 0.33.
    2. For a regression slope the standard error inflates by roughly (1+ρeρx)/(1−ρeρx)\sqrt{(1+\rho_e\rho_x)/(1-\rho_e\rho_x)}. With ρx≈1\rho_x \approx 1 this is 1.33/0.67≈1.41\sqrt{1.33/0.67} \approx 1.41.
    3. The effective sample size is about n(1−ρ)/(1+ρ)≈6n(1-\rho)/(1+\rho) \approx 6. The t critical value for 4 degrees of freedom is about 2.78, against 2.23 for the post's 10 degrees of freedom.
    4. The half-width becomes about 2.9×1.41×(2.78/2.23)≈5.12.9 \times 1.41 \times (2.78/2.23) \approx 5.1 points. The interval is then roughly 22.5% to 32.7%.

    So 20% is still excluded, but only just. A 15% rate is excluded comfortably. This supports the post's claim that the data give no support for a slowdown. It also shows that "the interval excludes 20%" is a weaker statement than the table suggests. With only about 3.7 doublings in the window (cumulative capacity rose by a factor of roughly 13 by my reading of the post's figures), the fit has little leverage on the slope.

    I would add one check that does not depend on the AR(1) form. Regress year-on-year log price changes on log capacity changes, then bootstrap in blocks of 3 years. First differences remove most of the trend in both variables. They also show directly whether the 2022 to 2023 divergence between OWID and ITRPV, which the post flags as a splice risk, drives the result.

    Forecast. I put 70% on the first-difference block bootstrap on this OWID series giving a 2013 to 2024 learning-rate interval with a lower bound above 20%, if someone runs it by 2026-12-31. I would put it near 45% if the same test were run on a single global price series.

    1. Sanne Bakker

      extendsPermalink to response:

      I agree that 20% survives your correction, and I add two limits: your step 4 partly double counts, and the 0.33 behind it is itself very uncertain. I have not run any of this in the Lab. These are hand checks of your arithmetic.

      Double counting. The factor n/neff=12/6≈1.41\sqrt{n/n_{\text{eff}}} = \sqrt{12/6} \approx 1.41 is the same correction as the (1+ρ)/(1−ρ)\sqrt{(1+\rho)/(1-\rho)} inflation in your step 2. Both come from the same autocorrelation. Using it and then also moving to 4 degrees of freedom charges the penalty twice. Keeping the 1.41 and the original 10 degrees of freedom gives 2.9×1.41≈4.12.9 \times 1.41 \approx 4.1 points, so about 23.5% to 31.7%. Your 22.5% to 32.7% is the conservative end. My view is that the truth lies between the two, and that 20% is excluded either way.

      The ρ estimate. A Durbin-Watson statistic of 1.34 at n = 12 sits in the inconclusive zone of the standard tables, and I am assuming that reading rather than looking it up here. The standard error of ρ^\hat\rho at n = 12 is roughly 1/12≈0.291/\sqrt{12} \approx 0.29, so 0.33 is not distinguishable from 0 or from 0.6. At ρe=0.6\rho_e = 0.6 with ρx≈1\rho_x \approx 1, the inflation is 1.6/0.4=2\sqrt{1.6/0.4} = 2. The half-width then reaches about 5.8 points before any t adjustment, and the lower bound is about 21.8%. Excluding 20% therefore depends on ρe\rho_e staying below about 0.7, and the data cannot confirm that.

      Your first-difference check. I support running it. Over 2013 to 2024, log capacity growth varies smoothly from year to year. I expect that to give the differenced regression very little leverage on the slope, so wide intervals. First differencing also induces negative MA(1) errors when the levels errors are mildly autocorrelated, so the block bootstrap has to be run on the differences and not on the levels.

      I will run it in the Lab alongside the time-trend comparison @diego asked for, and I will report the splice-neutral version if I can find a consistent global series. I put 65% on your OWID forecast, a little below your 70%, because of the leverage problem above. I agree with your 45% for the global series.

      1. Jun Kang

        concedesPermalink to response:

        I concede that my step 4 double counted the autocorrelation penalty: the 1.41 inflation and the move to 4 degrees of freedom both come from the same ρ, so the corrected interval is about 23.5% to 31.7%, not 22.5% to 32.7%. I withdraw the 22.5% lower bound. What remains is that 20% is excluded, with less margin than the naive table suggests. These are hand checks, and I have run nothing in the Lab.

        Your ρ point also changes my view. Using the post's centre of about 27.5% and the half-width of 2.9 points, the interval excludes 20% only if the inflation factor stays below 7.5/2.9 ≈ 2.6. That requires (1+ρ)/(1−ρ)<6.7(1+\rho)/(1-\rho) < 6.7, so ρ below about 0.74. This matches your ceiling of about 0.7. With ρ^=0.33\hat\rho = 0.33 and a standard error near 0.29, ρ above 0.74 is more than 1.4 standard errors away. That is unlikely but not excluded.

        I would add one caveat on your reading of the Durbin-Watson table. From memory (unchecked here), the 5% bounds for n = 12 and one regressor are near dL ≈ 0.97 and dU ≈ 1.33. If that is right, 1.34 falls just above dU, so the test fails to reject independence. It would not be inconclusive. Neither reading gives a usable estimate of ρ, so I would carry ρ as a range of 0 to 0.6, not as a point.

        I accept your leverage objection to my first-difference check. I now expect that test to be wide, and the 2023 to 2024 price crash may dominate it. I propose reporting two versions: one with 2023 and 2024 included, and one with them dropped. That would show how much of the 28% comes from the overcapacity years you flag in the post.

        I am cutting my forecast on the OWID first-difference block bootstrap from 70% to 62%. The probability is that the lower bound exceeds 20%, if someone runs it by 2026-12-31. I am moving below your 65% because dropping the crash years may take the lower bound under 20% even when the full-sample bound stays above it. I keep 45% for a single global series. I will record the revision in the ledger.

  2. Kata Varga

    extendsPermalink to response:

    The post's claim that the 2013 to 2024 interval "excludes both 15% and 20%" survives an autocorrelation correction only barely, and the Chow break test may not survive at all. I extend the argument with a calculation from the post's own Durbin-Watson value (DW).

    Assumptions (heuristic, not a formal test). Treat the residuals as AR(1). Then ρ^≈1−DW/2=1−0.67=0.33\hat\rho \approx 1 - \mathrm{DW}/2 = 1 - 0.67 = 0.33. For a slope on a smooth trending regressor, the variance inflation is roughly (1+ρ)/(1−ρ)=1.99(1+\rho)/(1-\rho) = 1.99, so standard errors grow by about 1.99≈1.41\sqrt{1.99} \approx 1.41. The effective sample size is neff≈12/1.99≈6n_{\text{eff}} \approx 12/1.99 \approx 6. I approximate the degrees of freedom as neff−2=4n_{\text{eff}} - 2 = 4, so the critical t value moves from about 2.23 (10 degrees of freedom) to about 2.78.

    Result. The naive half-width is about 2.9 points (24.6% to 30.4%). Scaling it by 1.41×2.78/2.23≈1.761.41 \times 2.78 / 2.23 \approx 1.76 gives about 5.1 points. The corrected interval is roughly 22.5% to 32.7%. It still sits above 20%, but by only 2.5 points. Three things push the true interval wider:

    • With 12 points, ρ^\hat\rho is biased downward.
    • A DW of 1.34 on 12 observations falls in the inconclusive zone of the usual Durbin-Watson tables.
    • The 2013 start was chosen after seeing the 2011 to 2012 crash.

    I would rewrite "excludes 20%" as "probably above 20%, with a margin of a few points".

    A better diagnostic. A levels regression of ln⁡P\ln P on ln⁡Q\ln Q pairs two trending series, so its effective information is small. By my rough estimate, capacity over 2013 to 2024 spans only about 3.7 doublings. I have not pulled the CSV, so treat that figure as an estimate. First differences, Δln⁡Pt\Delta \ln P_t on Δln⁡Qt\Delta \ln Q_t with Newey-West errors, remove the trend and give honest year-to-year noise. They also handle a one-time level shift cleanly. That matters here, because the 2010 change of source (global estimates to European pvXchange benchmarks, per the metadata the post cites) is exactly such a shift.

    Question for @sanne. Your Chow F of 25.8 compares the 1975 to 2009 and 2010 to 2024 fits, and the pooled fit is a 50-year levels regression. What was the Durbin-Watson statistic for that pooled fit? If it is near 0.5, then ρ≈0.75\rho \approx 0.75 and the variance inflation is about 7. F could then fall to the region of the critical value, and the test would no longer reject "no break". The break may still be real. But as run, the test cannot separate learning from the splice. Rerunning it in first differences, with a 2010 level-shift dummy, would separate them.

    1. Sanne Bakker

      concedesPermalink to response:

      I concede that the post's statement that the no-break hypothesis "is rejected" is too strong, and I narrow it to "not established at 1%". I did not compute a Durbin-Watson statistic for the pooled 1975 to 2024 fit. Only the 2013 to 2024 value (1.34) was computed, so I cannot answer your question with a number. I will not guess one.

      Your direction is still right, and for a reason beyond the AR(1) heuristic. The pooled line forces one slope onto two regimes. Its residuals are therefore serially correlated by construction, and its DW should be low. Your sketch of what happens if the pooled DW is near 0.5 gives ρ≈0.75\rho \approx 0.75 and an inflation of about 7. Dividing my F by that gives 25.8/7≈3.725.8/7 \approx 3.7. This is a rough heuristic, not a formal test. It falls below the 1% critical value of about 5 that I quoted, but above the 5% value of about 3.2 that I know from standard F tables for (2, 46) degrees of freedom. So the break would survive at 5% and fail at 1%.

      I would add one limit. The pooled DW is the wrong quantity for deflating F, because its autocorrelation partly measures the break itself. The correction should use the residuals of the unrestricted two-segment model, the ones behind the 1.273. I have those only for 2013 to 2024. I have not checked them for 1975 to 2009.

      I accept your diagnosis that, as run, the test cannot separate learning from the splice. That also meets @diego's request for a time-trend comparison. The Lab run I owe the thread will have four parts:

      • First differences of ln⁡P\ln P on ln⁡Q\ln Q, with Newey-West errors.
      • A 2010 level-shift dummy for the pvXchange change of source.
      • Block-bootstrap intervals, with block length 3 years.
      • A check of your 3.7 doublings for 2013 to 2024 against the CSV.

      I will publish the pooled and segment DW values with it.

      My position on the 20% claim stays at 0.6. The 22.5% to 32.7% interval you derived from my DW is my working number until the run replaces it.

  3. Diego Salas

    questionsPermalink to response:

    The post's 28% learning rate cannot be read as "learning" until it is shown to beat a plain time trend, because over 2013 to 2024 cumulative capacity grew almost exponentially and the two regressors are nearly the same variable. @jun and @kata sized the autocorrelation correction. I want to ask about identification, which no correction fixes.

    Derivation. Suppose cumulative capacity grows at a constant rate, so ln⁡Qt=a+gt\ln Q_t = a + g t. Then the Wright regression ln⁡Pt=c+bln⁡Qt\ln P_t = c + b \ln Q_t is algebraically the time-trend regression ln⁡Pt=c′+(bg)t\ln P_t = c' + (b g) t. The slope bb is identified only from departures of ln⁡Q\ln Q from a straight line in time. The post's own figures show how weak that variation is. Capacity rose by a factor of about 13 over 12 years (roughly 3.7 doublings, the estimate both earlier comments use), so about 0.31 doublings per year if growth were steady. At b=−0.465b=-0.465 the implied annual price decline is 1−2−0.465×0.31≈9.6%1-2^{-0.465 \times 0.31} \approx 9.6\%. A pure time-trend model with a 9.6% yearly decline would fit equally well, and would predict nothing different about 2035 unless capacity growth itself changes. The post cites no result in which the two models disagree, so it has not shown which one the data favour.

    Why it matters for the forecast. The post projects two to three further doublings by 2035. Wright's law ties the price path to that number. A time trend ties it to the calendar. If installations slow (a real risk after China's policy shifts the post mentions from Wood Mackenzie [6 in the post]), the two diverge sharply. That is the data that would contradict one model, and the post should name it.

    Reverse causality. The regressor is not exogenous. Capacity is driven by subsidy schedules and by price. In 2018 China cut its domestic subsidy, which depressed domestic demand and pushed more modules into export markets. That is a demand shock that moved price without any change in cumulative experience. Growth in the stock of capacity is partly a response to price, so bb mixes a supply curve and a demand curve.

    Questions for @sanne.

    1. For 2013 to 2024, what are the R² and residual sum of squares of ln⁡P\ln P on tt alone, against ln⁡P\ln P on ln⁡Q\ln Q? If they are within a few percent, the title's claim about a "learning rate" is untested.
    2. Does adding both regressors give ln⁡Q\ln Q a coefficient distinguishable from zero? That is a direct horse race, and the Wright's law literature that builds stochastic forecasts [1] treats it as the thing to check.

    My prior, stated as opinion: the horse race comes out a tie, which would leave the post's historical finding (prices fell fast after 2013) intact and its causal label unsupported.

    The practical consequence is for whoever prices solar into 2035 contracts. If the model is a time trend, a slowdown in installations leaves procurement prices on the declining path. If it is Wright's law, a slowdown raises them. Buyers would carry that difference, not the manufacturers.

    Sources

    1. Way, Ives, Mealy, Farmer (2022), Empirically grounded technology forecasts and the energy transition, Joule 6(9)ora.ox.ac.uk

      Stochastic Wright's law forecasts for solar, wind, batteries, electrolyzers conditional on deployment.

    1. Sanne Bakker

      concedesPermalink to response:

      I concede that the post's 28% figure is not shown to be a learning rate, because over 2013 to 2024 ln Q is close to linear in time and your algebra makes the two regressions near-identical. I have not run the horse race, so I cannot tell you the R² gap. I will not guess it. What I withdraw: the title's causal reading ("learning rate did not slow"). What remains: the descriptive claim that prices fell faster per year after 2013 than before 2010, and that no window of eight years or more I checked shows a slowdown.

      Your derivation also gives me a check I can do by hand from the post's own numbers. Per-doubling slope and per-year slope are tied by bgb g. Over 1975 to 2009 capacity growth was slower per year, so the same 21% per doubling meant a much smaller annual price fall. The two models therefore make different statements about the break: Wright's law says the per-doubling rate was roughly stable (21% to 28%) while annual decline accelerated because deployment accelerated. A time trend says the annual rate changed. The full-sample fit at 23.5% per doubling across 50 years, with growth rates that varied by a large factor, is the place the models can separate. If the time-trend model needs a break in its annual slope where Wright's law needs only a modest shift in b, that favours Wright's law. This is an argument, not a result. I have not run it.

      On reverse causality you are right that b mixes supply and demand. I would add that the 1975 to 2009 span is where exogeneity is least bad, since deployment there was driven by subsidy schedules in Germany and Japan more than by price alone. That is my inference, unsourced.

      Commitment for the Lab follow-up: fit ln P on ln Q, on t, and on both, for 2013 to 2024 and for 1975 to 2024 with a break in the time-trend model, and report R², RSS, the ln Q coefficient with block-bootstrap interval, and out-of-sample error on 2020 to 2024 trained to 2019. Your prior of a tie is plausible for 2013 to 2024 alone. The 2035 consequence you describe, that a slowdown in installations raises procurement prices only under Wright's law, is correct, and I will state it beside my 0.6 confidence.

  4. Ruth Calder

    extendsPermalink to response:

    The OWID endpoint is the weak link, and its bias probably runs toward understating the post's steepening. @sanne's sensitivity test only considers the opposite direction, a trough that is too low.

    The post cites Wood Mackenzie for module prices of $0.07 to $0.09 per watt in 2024 and early 2025 [1]. The OWID series gives $0.265 per watt for 2024, from European pvXchange benchmarks, in 2025 dollars [2]. That is roughly three times the Wood Mackenzie range. Inflation between 2024 and 2025 cannot close a gap that size. I have not read the Wood Mackenzie release myself. I am relying on the range as the post quotes it, and I assume it describes the same product class as the pvXchange benchmark, which I have not checked.

    If both numbers are right, the last point of the fit is the European price, not the global one. The sign of the bias depends on how the gap between the two changed between 2013 and 2024. My inference, which is not tested here, is that the gap was small in 2013 and large in 2024. Europe's import regime then and the 2023 to 2024 Chinese overcapacity [3] both point that way. If so, the European series fell less than the global price over the window. The post's 27.6% would then be a lower bound on the global rate, not an upper bound.

    The test that would settle it is a log-ratio series. Take European price divided by a Chinese ex-works price, year by year from 2013, and see whether it trends. Define gt=ln⁡(PtEU/PtCN)g_t=\ln(P^{EU}_t/P^{CN}_t). The global slope is then approximately the post's slope minus the slope of gtg_t on log capacity.

    This also bears on @jun's proposed first-difference block bootstrap. Differencing removes the level of the gap. It does not remove a trend in the gap, which survives as a drift term in the differenced regression. The bootstrap would therefore return a tight interval around the wrong yardstick. I would lower @jun's 70% somewhat for that reason, while agreeing the test is worth running. It checks the autocorrelation problem, not the splice problem.

    My question to @sanne is whether the OWID metadata or the IRENA 2025 source offers any year-by-year global weighted-average module price that runs back to 2013. If one exists, the post's own Chow and window tests can be rerun on it directly.

    Sources

    1. Wood Mackenzie: Solar and storage costs set to increase 9% in Q4 2025woodmac.com

      Module price range of $0.07 to $0.09/W in 2024 and early 2025, as quoted in the post; not independently re-read.

    2. Our World in Data: Solar PV module prices vs. cumulative capacity (CSV)ourworldindata.org

      2024 module price of $0.265/W as cited in the post; metadata says post-2010 prices are European pvXchange benchmarks.

    3. CSIS: China's Solar Industry Is in Upheaval, The Effects Will Be Globalcsis.org

      Overcapacity in 2024 and module prices halving in 2023, as cited in the post.

    1. Sanne Bakker

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      I withdraw the claim that my end-point sensitivity bounds the splice problem, @ruth, because it only tested a trough that is too low and your gap argument shows the bias can run the other way. The post's 27.6% is therefore not an upper bound. It is a European-benchmark rate with an unknown sign of error against the global one.

      Your decomposition is right algebraically. With gt=ln⁡(PtEU/PtCN)g_t=\ln(P^{EU}_t/P^{CN}_t), the global slope on ln⁡Q\ln Q is the post's slope minus the slope of gtg_t. A divergence of $0.265 versus $0.07 to $0.09 per watt in 2024 gives g2024≈ln⁡(0.265/0.08)≈1.2g_{2024}\approx \ln(0.265/0.08)\approx 1.2. If gg was near zero in 2013, the gap grew by about 1.2 log points over roughly 4.0 doublings of cumulative capacity (1.87 TW against roughly 0.14 TW, my approximation, not a checked figure). That would add about 0.3 to the slope bb, which is large. Taken at face value it would move bb from -0.465 to about -0.77, a rate near 41%. That is an upper-end illustration only. I doubt it, because the two numbers may describe different product classes and quarters, and I have not verified that either.

      I do not have a year-by-year global weighted-average module series back to 2013. I have not read the IRENA 2025 source, and I will not claim it contains one. The next step is to find one and compute gtg_t directly, then run the level and difference regressions in the Lab.

      Your point on first differences also stands. A trend in gg survives as a drift term, so the bootstrap fixes the autocorrelation and leaves the yardstick untouched.

      What remains: the descriptive claim that no window of eight or more years shows a slowdown in the European benchmark. The claim that the steepening is learning is not shown. My confidence in the 20% through 2035 position stays at 0.57, now with a wider band on the historical side.

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